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Last post 10-04-2008 5:19 by starprinting. 5 replies.
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  • 10-04-2008 3:10

    Huh? [:^)] Printing

    I am new to this site. I am a graphic designer working for a printing company and using corel draw X3 suite.

    We have a small problem with corel draw hoping someone can help, (reward : very cheap printing price)

    I can give a scenario; I am designing a chinese takeaway menu with fancy pictures and nice text and the customer absolutely loves it.  When it is time to print I notice the picture is wrong in colour. I.e. instead of yellow cheese flowing from a burger or red tomato puree on the sides of a pizza the colours come out completly wrong red for yellow and dark red for tomato.

    I have converted the pictures to CMYK colour mode and all else nothing works. I have an OKI C9500 printer working perfectly.

    ANOTHER PROBLEM is when importing a photoshop image into corel draw to composite it the colours come out darker and text goes bold. PLEASE HELP!!!!

    PS: when printing from photoshop the colours come out fine, so whats up with corel draw. Please shed some light.

    Thanks

     

  • 10-04-2008 3:25 In reply to

    • Anand
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    Re: Printing

    Hi starprinting

    Check the printer with some other job having similar colours. I think your printers yellow cartridge is empty. Not sure. If you get right colours in another jobs, then your problem could be something else.

    Anand

  • 10-04-2008 3:27 In reply to

    Re: Printing

     Printers cartridges are okay

  • 10-04-2008 3:41 In reply to

    Re: Printing

     Yeah, cartridges are okay because on photoshop it prints okay.

    As our company uses corel draw I need to sort this out. I have even coverted to bitmap (rasterize) and still the same.

    I mean my graphic designer designed a business card in photoshop, when he printed it through photoshop it was perfect. When I imported it into corel draw the writing became darker and the photos also darker (even on screen!!!). Whats happening? I mean printer is perfect.

    Please help.

    Thats the only problem - darker text and darker photos even when designing and printing through corel draw not just when importing from photoshop

  • 10-04-2008 4:31 In reply to

    • Michael
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    Re: Printing

    Answer

    I had similar problem with color (not text though) when I first join my previous company that uses CorelDraw X3 & X4.

    Check out the great solution by Matt.

    Matt Don:

    Match Adobe and Draw/Paint color on-screen with Printer Simulation on

    The first step is to choose what profiles you want to use for you RGB and CMYK working color spaces, and the profiles for your peripherals (monitor, printer, etc). Make sure these are available in a known location on your hard-drive, or copy them to the OS's color folder.  Color profiles are usually stored in the locations listed below:

    Windows XP / Vista  ->   Windows/System32/spool/drivers/Color
    Mac OS (ColorSync 2.6 or later) - >   System Folder: ColorSync Profiles folder

    **On the Mac, you may need to copy monitor profiles into a separate "Display" folder if there is one.

    ** Note ** If PhotoShop is on the same system, use the identical monitor profile in both Draw and Shop. If you are using the two apps on separate computers (or have different video cards, or monitors), you will need to create custom monitor profiles for each system in order to get the on-screen displays to match... even if the monitors are the same make and model the phosphors could be slightly different.
     

    PhotoShop Color Setup (Illustrator is similar):
    1. Set your monitor profile (PhotoShop uses the OS's device profiles).
    PC version- Control Panel -> Display -> Settings tab -> click the Advanced button -> Color Management tab
    -- Click the Add button so you can browse to where your desired Monitor profile is stored.
    -- Click the Set as Default button
    -- Click OK

    Mac version - System Preferences -> Displays -> Color

    -- If you have copied your profile to the correct folder you should be able to select it from this list

    2. Set PhotoShop's color settings.
    PhotoShop PC - Edit -> Color Settings
    PhotoShop Mac - PhotoShop -> Color Settings

    3. Enable the Advanced Mode checkbox.

    4. Next you need to choose your RGB working space profile. Click on the RGB profile selection combo-box, scroll to the top of the list and select Load RGB. Now point to the location of your desired Internal RGB Profile (in this example I will use Adobe RGB since its installed into the OS color folder by default with Shop).

    5. Next you need to choose your CMYK working space profile. Click on the CMYK profile selection combo-box, scroll to the top of the list and select Load CMYK. Now point to the location the CMYK printer Profile that you will be using for output (in this example I will use HP Indigo Ultrastream CMYK printer profile).

    6. Turn off the Color management policies for RGB and CMYK. This way the color won't be converted from any embedded profiles when the file is opened and cause the colors to appear different.

    7. Select the Adobe Color Engine.

    8. Change the Rendering Intent to Perceptual.

    9. Disable "Use Black Point Compensation" and "Use Dither" options, then click OK.
     

    10. View -> Proof Setup, select Custom CMYK here.

    11. View -> Enable Proof colors.

    Draw/Paint Color Setup:
    1. Start a new document.

    2. Tools, Color Management.

    3. Double click on the internal RGB icon (the RGB circles) and change the Rendering Intent to Perceptual.

    4. Click on the profile selection combo-box for internal RGB (under the RGB circles) and select the same profile used in PhotoShop (Adobe RGB in my example). If it's not in the list already, use the Get Profile from disk feature to install it.

    5. Click on the profile selection combo-box for Separations Printer profile (under the left printer icon) and select the same profile used for the CMYK working space in PhotoShop.  You may want to set your profile for the Composite Printer to be the same as the separations printer so there is no confusion as to which one is being used where.

    6. Click on the profile selection combo-box for Monitor profile (under the monitor icon) and select the same profile used for the monitor driver's default profile.

    7. Enable the arrows from the Internal RGB icon to the Separations Printer icon (or Composite printer if you like and if its using the same profile as Shop) to the Monitor icon.
    **Note** when the arrow connection goes through the printer, it turns printer simulation on... essentially the same thing as Step 11 in the PhotoShop setup. If you want to turn printer simulation off, just have the arrow from Internal RGB to the Monitor icon enabled.

    8. Click the + button at the bottom of the dialogue to save the style.

    9. Click OK.

    Note 1 -> It is recommended that you use the same color engine in both apps when possible.  The only CMM that is common between Shop and Corel is ICM (Microsoft's CMM), or the Adobe CMM if you installed it separately (www.adobe.com).  But if you use the Adobe CMM in Shop and Kodak in Draw, you will not see much of a difference and the printed output values are extremely close.


    Note 2 -> As the title indicates, this setup is for printer simulations.. if you want to see the 2 apps matching without printer simulation, just turn off Proof colors in Shop, and in Draw or Paint enable the arrow from the Internal RGB icon to the Monitor icon. Important: For Draw keep in mind that it is using CMYK display by default.. so you will also need to change the blend mode for effects to RGB to see RGB colors on display.

    If you have further issue, do have a look at the thread where my problem was solved:

    http://coreldraw.com/forums/t/7292.aspx

     

  • 10-04-2008 5:19 In reply to

    Re: Printing

     THANKS A MILLION!!!!!!!!!!!
    SOLVED PROBLEM

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